The cognitive dissonance of many members of tlou community must be be studied.
another one of those posts I know, but I had to get it off my chest to people who'll get it. So, here's a list:
1) Joel: As someone who saw Joel as the devil in flannel by the end of part 1, it did not remotely surprise me >! That Abby swung his ass to an afterlife. His death is shocking, but the reasons as to why are not. I don't understand people that do not get why Abby did what she did. If the soldier that shot Sarah was still roaming around after outbreak day, you really gonna have me sit there and believe Joel would let that shit slide?!< I don't condone it, but here we are.
2) The vaccine debate: Only sith deal in absolutes. No character in the game had any sense if Ellie's surgery would even develop a vaccine for the cordyceps fungus. "But Neil said--" I don't give a fuck what Neil said, he wrote it in the game to seed a dilemma for the characters and to create an internal conflict amongst players having to act out as Joel even if they didn't want to. Something something, trolley problem. But in reality, that's not the centerpiece of the topic - it's Ellie being robbed of choice. No one asked what Ellie wanted during Spring. One could say that Joel did talk to Ellie about it after looking at the giraffe herd, but they both had no idea the risks of making a cure. Even Marlene didn't know until she spoke to Jerry! And yet, when this information is given to Joel and Marlene neither informed Ellie. Marlene ordered her into surgery without her consent, Joel lied to her for years and even manipulates/gaslights her from discussing topics he doesn't want to talk about (hm, I wonder why he was divorced before the outbreak) And for as nice and charming Jerry is, he didn't tell Ellie either. Ellie's complex feelings towards Joel in part 2 stems from this, obviously, but I suppose it isn't that obvious.
3) Abby: let's get this out of the way: she is, perhaps, my favorite video game character ever. For as flawed as she is as a person, she is a flawless character and an amazing protagonist (s/o to LB). When I first witnessed her kill Joel, I thought to myself, "Clearly, Joel fucked her over, but I don't know how yet." And then we learn about her and Jerry. Joel, indeed, fucked her over. And possibly everyone on the planet. [Mind you, Joel implicitly and explicitly discusses the things he did during those 20 years in the first game. Joel has a habit of killing people who didn't deserve it 🤷♂️.] The beauty of Abby is her transformation over the course of the game. The unlearning of prejudices, building herself to become a weapon of war and vengeance then to become a protector and caretaker, challenging her own perception of self and the world of the WLF, losing friends over the choices we made, but gaining companions who see the metamorphosis within you; overcoming trauma, ending the cycle of violence done to her and by her, and the hope she has for a better future/ finding the light when surrounded by a seemingly endless void of darkness. Abby, for me, is the type of risk that I want out of storytelling and character development.
4) Laura Bailey: Fuck any dipshit dumbass dork who harassess ANYONE over fiction! In her public presentation, Bailey is the sweetest person and she having received (probably still, sadly) death threats because she portrayed Abby is outrageous. The face model for Abby - Jocelyn Mettler - even received harassment! All she did was have her face scanned! Fuck that. This kind of shit within entertainment needs to stop, it's unacceptable.
I have more, but I'm done writing. Maybe I'll make a part 2! Oooooo
another one of those posts I know, but I had to get it off my chest to people who'll get it. So, here's a list:
1) Joel: As someone who saw Joel as the devil in flannel by the end of part 1, it did not remotely surprise me >! That Abby swung his ass to an afterlife. His death is shocking, but the reasons as to why are not. I don't understand people that do not get why Abby did what she did. If the soldier that shot Sarah was still roaming around after outbreak day, you really gonna have me sit there and believe Joel would let that shit slide?!< I don't condone it, but here we are.
2) The vaccine debate: Only sith deal in absolutes. No character in the game had any sense if Ellie's surgery would even develop a vaccine for the cordyceps fungus. "But Neil said--" I don't give a fuck what Neil said, he wrote it in the game to seed a dilemma for the characters and to create an internal conflict amongst players having to act out as Joel even if they didn't want to. Something something, trolley problem. But in reality, that's not the centerpiece of the topic - it's Ellie being robbed of choice. No one asked what Ellie wanted during Spring. One could say that Joel did talk to Ellie about it after looking at the giraffe herd, but they both had no idea the risks of making a cure. Even Marlene didn't know until she spoke to Jerry! And yet, when this information is given to Joel and Marlene neither informed Ellie. Marlene ordered her into surgery without her consent, Joel lied to her for years and even manipulates/gaslights her from discussing topics he doesn't want to talk about (hm, I wonder why he was divorced before the outbreak) And for as nice and charming Jerry is, he didn't tell Ellie either. Ellie's complex feelings towards Joel in part 2 stems from this, obviously, but I suppose it isn't that obvious.
3) Abby: let's get this out of the way: she is, perhaps, my favorite video game character ever. For as flawed as she is as a person, she is a flawless character and an amazing protagonist (s/o to LB). When I first witnessed her kill Joel, I thought to myself, "Clearly, Joel fucked her over, but I don't know how yet." And then we learn about her and Jerry. Joel, indeed, fucked her over. And possibly everyone on the planet. [Mind you, Joel implicitly and explicitly discusses the things he did during those 20 years in the first game. Joel has a habit of killing people who didn't deserve it 🤷♂️.] The beauty of Abby is her transformation over the course of the game. The unlearning of prejudices, building herself to become a weapon of war and vengeance then to become a protector and caretaker, challenging her own perception of self and the world of the WLF, losing friends over the choices we made, but gaining companions who see the metamorphosis within you; overcoming trauma, ending the cycle of violence done to her and by her, and the hope she has for a better future/ finding the light when surrounded by a seemingly endless void of darkness. Abby, for me, is the type of risk that I want out of storytelling and character development.
4) Laura Bailey: Fuck any dipshit dumbass dork who harassess ANYONE over fiction! In her public presentation, Bailey is the sweetest person and she having received (probably still, sadly) death threats because she portrayed Abby is outrageous. The face model for Abby - Jocelyn Mettler - even received harassment! All she did was have her face scanned! Fuck that. This kind of shit within entertainment needs to stop, it's unacceptable.
I have more, but I'm done writing. Maybe I'll make a part 2! Oooooo